Ind. Useful for “wet on wet” techniques and reducing skin formation on the palette." This item: Vallejo 200 ml Flow Improver Airbrush Model Air Bottle £9.38. It didn't really do anything to prevent dry tip. The recommended compressor settings are around 15-20 PSI or 0.5 to 1 kg. Vallejo Flow Improver 200ml. I have the Tamiya superfine but haven't tested the Vallejo stuff through it yet. I finished the Tamiya Sherman Easy8 and am very impressed with Vallejo acrylics. For short sessions when you are changing colors and flushing out the airbrush between them, this is generally not an issue if you thin your paints. and 71.362: Bottle de 32 ml. Overthinning will cause the mixture to dry quickly (thinner evaporates quickly) and also cause blockages. Sometimes a little more thinner may be needed depending on the paint and painting situation. Experiment on what suits you best, best Flow Improver/Thinner/Paint Ratio, but definitely use their flow Improver. For Vallejo model air I mix 60/40 and spray at 15 psi. The best part of this flow improver is that I’ve noticed I get less dry tip on my needle. Flow improver is an additive that you use with water. Flow improver helps break the surface tension so that the paint flows off the brush more smoothly/easily. Colors will not change their consistency. Choose an option 17 ml 32 ml 60 ml. Read more. You have been warned. Never used Tamiya but I swithched from ModelMasters acrylic to Vallejo Model Air and am really happy with their airbrush ability. Sent from and sold by Amazon. I have noticed each color has it's own unique properties. 71.261: Bottle de 17 ml. Happy Modeling. Exactly, I think I am using too many paint pots that is what I have thought as well. After about 10 to 15 minutes of great results, on both an Aztek (.4mm) and Badger 105 Patriot (.5mm) I had dry tip and a 'silly string' effect where the paint was pushed out by the needle when the trigger was released, forming a thin thread from the tip. You should try the new Mission Model acrylics. Sent from and sold by Amazon. I’ve not tried the Flow Improver but I have tested the Thinner Medium as a means of diluting Vallejo for fine-line work but that’s for a future article. The paint is less likely to "bead up" so it "flows" better. One oddball thing I noticed is that with the retarding agent mixed it, it has taken 2 days for my tank to 'cure', with the base color (desert yellow) feeling tacky in the meantime. If it's a standard base coat, I also add 2 drops flow improver for every 10 drops of paint. Said looking at it from the other direction: the paint stays wet longer. Vallejo Thinner vs Airbrush Flow Improver. Do I need to add more retarding agent to the mix, or should I do something else? You will have to thin with their thinner and a flow inhibitor but they spray damn near as good as an enamel. List Price: $8.99: Price: $6.69 + $5.52 shipping: You Save: $2.30 (26%) Each bottle contains an eyedropper device Improve flow through needle on Air Brush Presented in plastic bottles of 60ml Build new worlds. Mix with an old synthetic brush. It is recommended to ad 1-2 drops of Flow Improver to 10 drops of paint in the cup of the airbrush. I will add when the need arises by buying in either 16 or 8 ct. sets. (with a little flow improver) I bought their 16 count Basic, allied forces and allied axis sets. What type of airbrush are you running with a .2 nozzle? With regards to other additives, Vallejo produces two reagents Thinner Medium (#73.524) and Airbrush Flow Improver (#71.62) that are described as wetting agents. I have been told Vallejo contain latex, and the string certainly had a latex-feel to it. For many acrylic paints, the liquid is simply water. I usually do 5 drops of my pre-mix to 10 drops paint, with an extra drop pre-mix for each 10 paint - 10:5, 20:10, etc. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A place for atomization artists to come together to help with questions, troubleshooting, and of course an outlet to display Airbrush Art! By Like Eric mentioned, I just kept the airbrush in motion to prevent any pooling of the paint. Mecha Color can be airbrushed directly or diluted with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner or Flow Improver, and the colors can also be applied by brush. Better to have stringy paint in the test cup rather than in the airbrush or on the model. If you have access to Vallejo air I would use that. Adding up to 25% by volume of thinner is no problem; 25%-50% can get dicey with adhesion; more than 50% you risk serious adhesion problems. Size. For a thicker coat it’ll still thin at least 1:1 or often 1 part paint, 2 parts water. I am continually meeting people who are not sure how to use Flow Improver, for this reason I have made this short video to explain it. Living in San Antonio, TX during the summer I also add a drop or two of their flow improver. Most paint manufacturers also add some retarder and flow improver to their thinner. Even then I am still thinning too much based on the wet paint on the model also I am getting tiny dots appearing on my model. I usually thin at a ratio of 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, plus 10% thinner just to make sure. 2 drops of paint to one drop of thinner. The information is very helpful. Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver – Medium est spécialement formulé pour améliorer la fluidité de la peinture, évitant ainsi que la couleur ne sèche trop rapidement à l'intérieur de l'aérographe. They are VERY smooth through the airbrush. In stock. The paint goes on better and keeps a much better consistency than if you were to thin with water. Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver 60ml Paint Set Brand: Vallejo. Do I really need both? The other lines were not designed for airbrushing and I've read that because of that the painting composition for each colour is widely different. More items to explore. I put in enough flow improver or thinner to give the bottom a full but thin coat, then add a few drops of paint, depending on what kind of paint it is. AIRBRUSH FLOW IMPROVER Safety data sheet According to 1907/2006/EC (REACH), 2015/830/EU SECTION 1: IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE/MIXTURE AND OF THE COMPANY/UNDERTAKING 1.4 Emergency telephone number: +34 938 936 012 (9:00 - 17:00) ACRYLICOS VALLEJO, S.L. I use vallejo game colour regularly now. Seems alot cheaper that way. For best airbrush maintenance we recommend using the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner. The best part of this flow improver is that I’ve noticed I get less dry tip on my needle. I follow the ratio of 1 drop of the flow improver to every 10 drops of paint/thinner in my airbrush. I’ve heard that the Vallejo airbrush thinner is no bueno because it dries the paint out too fast. In stock. 25% Thinner to 75% paint (1 part thinner 3 parts paint) is a good starting point for a standard base coat. Gary. Longer sessions typically require a little help. Not the cheapest, but does the job and a 200ml bottle goes a long way. I was spraying black and desert yellow Vallejo model colors last night, both thinned with the Vallejo airbrush thinner and a small amount of Vallejo retarder. I would go with a 1:1 ratio. As well share ideas, experience, and techniques in this highly versatile painting medium. and 73.597 Bottle 60 ml. Sorry I can't help Gary, but I'm looking forward to learning something along with you! You can try mig thinner. 71.262: Bottle de 17 ml. 200ml Bottle Airbrush Flow Improver 200ml bottle from Vallejo paints of Medium designed to improve the flow and delay the drying of paint on the needle while airbrushing. Vallejo offer a great range of authentically matched paints in their range and you’ll be unlucky not to find the tones you want from what’s available. Still may have to wipe the tip off occasionally. Clear. "Thinner" is mostly the liquid in which the acrylic paint binder molecules are suspended. Spray at higher PSI imo, i spray that at 20-30 PSI, and wipe the tip often. (1) This has worked really well for me. For best maintenance of the airbrush, it is recommended to use the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner. I like the colors themselves and would hate to have to swicth out to a different brand. If you are marble coating with Vallejo … Previous page. The purpose of this product is to reduce the frequency of the airbrush tip clogging due to dried paint accumulation. Reply; Arespontus. 71.262: Bottle de 17 ml. We recommend the addition of a few drops of thinner to the colors while airbrushing." Reply; patrick206. The compressor adjustment recommended is 15 – 20 PSI o 0.5 to 1 kg. For best airbrush maintenance we recommend using the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner. The colors dry very rapidly and form a homogenous paint film of extraordinary resistance while preserving even the smallest detail of the model. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Active Moderators u/GreatBigPig u/crewchief227 u/bagofboards, Press J to jump to the feed. It is recommended to add 1-2 drops of Flow Improver to 10 drops of paint in the cup of the airbrush." That paint worked. Vallejo air is also non-toxic while there other lines should be used with a mask and ventilation. F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town! Sent from and sold by Amazon. Member since March 2013; Posted by patrick206 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:31 PM KansasSteve. Choose an option. Vallejo also has a Drying Retarder. Too much retarder prevents the paint from ever drying. I have a bottle of Vallejo sand yellow and I sprayed that at a 2:1 paint to thinner ration after adding the 2-3 drops of the flow improver and still at 20 psi. How about you? I’ve used Vallejo Surface Primer for years for painting miniatures. N is for NO SURVIVORS... - Plankton. GLH, Voir les informations concernant les certifications du produit dans la fiche de sécurité. Looking at the Vallejo line, maybe the Vallejo thinner has some flow improver in it? For the primer I mixed 2 drops thinner and one drop Liquitex with 10 drops of the surface primer. 70.597 Bottle 17 ml. Experiment on what suits you best, best Flow Improver/Thinner/Paint Ratio, but definitely use their flow Improver. and 71.061: Bottle de 32 ml. Vallejo Flow Improver is Vallejo Airbrush Thinner with a Drying Retarder added. Of course, you can always add to much of a good thing. When you airbrush keeping your air pressure low (around 15-20 PSI) will help you keep control over the spray pattern. Back in the day, the drop of dish soap that you added to a bottle of Poly S paint was a flow improver. and 71.362: Bottle de 32 ml. The compressor adjustment recommended is 15 – 20 PSI o 0.5 to 1 kg. I also added 2 drops of thinner to the Vallejo air paints and sprayed between 10 -15 psi. We recommend adding 1-2 drops Flow Improver to 10 drops of paint in the cup of the airbrush. What's your ratio of paint to flow improver? Model Air is used directly or diluted with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner or Flow Improver. I'll try a distilled water mix next time, see how that comes out. If the thinner doesn't work to solve all of your problems, you can always add the retarder as recommended in your next session. Surface Primer can be used directly or diluted with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner of Flow Improver. Cookies help us deliver our Services. It sprayed very nicely and I got a nice thin layer of paint on the model with no runs. I been using two to one ratio for the Vallejo Model paint. There are two kinds of airbrush media: a thinner and a flow improver. It immediately becomes apparent what my problem is at least – the use of Flow Improver to mix with the paint – problem solved! Any advice/information is appreciated. État : Neuf. I looked at the description of the Airbrush Flow Improver on amazon.com; it seems to be a "retarder" - an additive to make the paint dry slower. My first attempts I wasn't thinning enough and did have blockages due to thickness causing the problem. read the ingredients label for fun). My thanks to all who replied. What is the difference between Vallejo Thinner and Airbrush Flow Improver? Airbrush Flow Improver: "Medium designed to improve the flow and delay the drying of paint on the needle while airbrushing. For the detail work it can be as thin as 1 part vallejo paint to maybe 4 or 5 parts water, and a small amount of flow enhancer (3 or 4 drops in one of those metal paint trays). Airbrush Thinner: "Thinner for Model Air and Liquid Acrylic. Happy Modeling. I tend to use a 1:2 thinner to paint ratio, depending on the viscosity of the paint I'm using. Il est recommandé d'ajouter 1 à 2 gouttes de Flow Improver pour 10 gouttes de … AIRBRUSH FLOW IMPROVER 60ML VALLEJO 71462 Airbrush Flow Improver est un médium pour améliorer la fluidité de la peinture et retarder son séchage. Référence VP71562. Just keep cleaning your needle often if you must use the black model color. But that is another discussion. Do any of you guys have a Vallejo paint/thinner/retarder ratio you prefer that gives good results? Distilled water doesn't have the contaminants/additives found in tap water or well water. 4.8 out of 5 stars 277 ratings. Vallejo Model Air 200 ml Airbrush Cleaner £7.50. I use their proprietary thinning agent for brushing (which is basically an acrylic base without pigment) on a lot of the colors instead of distilled water as I found some reacted negatively to distilled water, or had a very fine threshold for separating and settling while drying. Mecha Color can be airbrushed directly or diluted with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner or Flow Improver, and the colors can also be applied by brush. But others, like Tamiya, use all sorts of goodies (alcohols, ethers, glycols, etc. For fine details such as motteling I’ll mix 50/50 and back psi way down with a fine tip. LSM . Thinner used to extend the colors, to increase fluidity and delay the drying time. Very confusing; I think Vallejo is just trying to increase their revenue so I'm just going to use the Thinner. The paint can get lumpy or stringy. Prévenez-moi lorsque le produit est disponible  11,90 € TTC. Spray at higher PSI imo, i spray that at 20-30 PSI, and wipe the tip often. I use a Grex airbrush. It is recommended to add 1-2 drops of Flow Improver to 10 drops of paint in the cup of the airbrush." Another breakthrough in my airbrushing has been trying Tamiya paints. To thin Vallejo Surface Primer, you can use water or flow improver additives, such as the Vallejo Thinner. That can come in handy with acrylics that dry so fast they clog up the tip of the airbrush, or don't flow out on the surface you're painting. One advantage to a "retarder" is that it not only keeps the paint from drying too fast while airbrushing, but it (theoretically) should also allow the paint to plait out on the surface better, making for a smoother finish. Vallejo Model Air 200 ml Thinners £9.28. I can only assume that Vallejo must’ve put a retarder in this as well, which is a nice addition. "Flow Improver" reduces the surface tension and to some extent the viscosity of the paint. It went on smoothly and has good adhesion. Now, if you need to thin more than 50%, consider using one of the paints' "mediums" (which is basically just clear acrylic paint; Future Floor Wax/Pledge can be considered a sort of universal acrylic paint medium). So far, this has become a staple additive for all my airbrushing sessions. So best to use the manufacturers' own products unless you have tested to make sure nothing happens. But in general, one or two drops of retarder or flow improver to your pot of paint is usually enough. Spray Model Color with Vallejo Flow Improver. Nous recommandons 1 à 2 gouttes de Flow Improver pour 10 gouttes de peinture à l'intérieur de l'aérographe. I found that the Vallejo-recommended 2 drops each thinner/flow improver for 10 drops paint kept the mix way too thick, especially for finer lines. Sailing Ships, Modern US Aircraft and Armor, WWI Aircraft, Formula I Racing, Medieval Figures. : +34938936012 - … Best to follow the paint's directions. I can only assume that Vallejo must’ve put a retarder in this as well, which is a nice addition. Surface Primer is not flammable, and does not contain solvents. "To delay drying time of Model Color, mix a few drops with the color, or dip brush into retarder on the palette. Mecha Color is not flammable, and does not contain solvents. Very confusing; I think Vallejo is just trying to increase their revenue so I'm just going to use the Thinner. This will be my first time using Vallejo Surface Primer and Air Colors. Sant Jordi - C/ Eusebio Millán, 14 08800 Vilanova i La Geltrú - Barcelona - Spain Phone. Some acrylic paint formulations can adversely react to another labels' thinner/retarder/flow improver. I do have access to Vallejo air, and will be testing the red/brown color on the panzer as well soon (hoping for less dry tip with that). Thanks again for all of the comments above. "Retarder" slows or retards the time it take for the paint to dry. If you use Vallejo paints in an airbrush, then these thinners are a must. It is recommended to first prime the surface, and then apply Model Air in several layers. Page 1 of 1 Start over Page 1 of 1 . February 15, 2015 in Tools, Tips & Techniques. I use the Reaper MSP version, so I don't know what artist paint based alternatives could be used. That is the result of that adverse reaction. Avis. Safety: Mecha Color is not flammable, and does not contain solvents. I follow the ratio of 1 drop of the flow improver to every 10 drops of paint/thinner in my airbrush. With 1 part paint, 0.5 thinner and 0.5 flow improver. Pol. BOMBS! So lets say that I use 30 drops of paint, I will add 15 drops of thinner, plus another 3 drops of thinner. I use it for model air and mecha colors lines and it works nice on .2mm with no retarder whatsoever. I’ve had good success with Kenny Boucher’s “gangster gumbo” method of Vallejo (or Liquitex) Flow Improver and just a couple of drops of water with the paint. 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